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up to the time I came to this little

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road I heard this big Roar last he got a

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dynamite check to the West there and I

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thought I'd investigate maybe I thought

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maybe load off

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so I started out there real fast halfway

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through it

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I stuck my head out the window out of

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the car and I think this flight take up

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to

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uh I didn't know what it was at that

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time I thought it was a vehicle that

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buckets to maybe help the people in the

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car I went up to it closed about 200

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feet I was 200 feet from it I got off

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the car and started towards when the

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heart just sticks noise again same noise

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and the flame comes under it I got

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scared and started running back I ran

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hold myself to the ground to hide

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afterwards uh how do you hear the noise

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no more uh

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I I just took it out of my head to see

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what was happening and

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I was real quiet then I thought it's

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quite objects just to take off towards

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the West there smooth out did it leave

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any kind of a vapor trail when it took

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off

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those Trails or nothing but it did make

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a roar at the time you approached it a

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big Roar

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and you could actually see the flame in

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under it yes what I did was it standing

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on legs The Authority legs I call it

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legs yes and you thought there were four

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of these uh apparently there was on the

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markets on the ground was four legs the

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words you examined it later on yes we

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did a million

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State Police after it took off did you

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to go back to get help now our rate of

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help from the car I think human obvious

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I see and when you went back to examine

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it what did you find near where it had

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been parked well uh the woods our bushes

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were around in Greece wood grass was

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from the ground

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uh friends and everything else there was

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Prince as if it had been standing on

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these legs hit the legs to go up into

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the object when it took off did you

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notice that

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and after it got into the air did the

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roar stop Yes or when the screen

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straight up

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array standard speaking I'm at the

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office of the defensive chieftain in

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Sakara New Mexico

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I have just talked to a gentleman here

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who lies on the site Saturday morning uh

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some hours after the occurrence while

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the imprints were still very clear

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and I want to ask him some questions I

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wonder if he could tell us his name

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first hello I'm a publisher of the Hill

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defensored Chieftain

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uh regarding what was what was seen by

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you at the site

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do you see the indentations or tracks

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while it was still very fresh you know

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on the way it was the next morning as I

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was Saturday morning and before

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hundreds of people gotten the chance to

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obliterated all the tracks

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what was your impression of these tracks

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uh do you think they were made by a

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heavy object or by a line object or by

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digging out or what no I would still

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have it out there coming down

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slowly

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and I made a four or five inch

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depression and uh conveyed with a hard

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sand there

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and uh

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what about 12 how would this about 12

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inches long

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and three or four inches wide and

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equally be perhaps running to the center

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in a wedge was that's a description that

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was actually

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a problem a little deeper on

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oh blue south side I mean the north side

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of the way it landed from his

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description uh the front of the plane or

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the object I put that way

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uh we're facing south and those the way

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it landed uh on uneven ground has seems

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to be a heavy indictions on the south

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side which indicates that uh more of the

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weight was there that this would be

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logical to me because uh as I recall

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from being there this money the south

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side is downhill I mean it's kind of

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science temperature tonight so there

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might actually be more weight on the

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south side if it were and I've been

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bouncing sitting on these things it was

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just your observation too yes

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um now I hear there were two little

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indentations off to one side through the

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West Side

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um

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try to parallel with the uh with one of

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the lines made by two of the four legs

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did you see these two invitations

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yourself yes I did and someone in the

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crowd uh while it was on the floor says

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one of them made remarks that if

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possibly Footprints or or if you hold

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the sky but more of a hoof print but

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that wasn't the impression that I had

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and we decided uh in our story in our

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sound a little preposterous

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I see

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um how close were these to the line

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formed by the student nearest uh

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Footprints we were Fallen left by the

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object's leg cramps how close were they

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to to the line made by the two nearest

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well they were in uh the price was in

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the center between the two inventions I

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made by the layers on the West Side okay

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and uh probably

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36 inches about a yard where they in

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parallel with that line made by this

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today no they were

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oh yes parallel I'm sorry yes

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um now um

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we weren't speculate it to us these were

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I was wondering um it was on the same

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side that Samora told me that he had

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seen some figures of a distance in white

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coveralls did he tell you about these

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figures yes yes they were on the same

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side those invention that they found the

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round holes or inventions of talking to

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Dr heide he implied that the more I told

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him nothing specific at all about seeing

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any men implied they hadn't even he

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hadn't even mentioned any Men He later

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seemed to come down and say that you

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mentioned coveralls after a very pointed

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questioning by one of the persons who

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was present but did um

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in this talk with them all soon after

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the sightings since you were one of the

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first to be there in a commissioned to

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you that he actually saw a man or just

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cover off

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men but uh

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you're mostly think so because he said

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because he uh when he was still in the

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car the one of them are both

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of the men or artists had to write to

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him and one of them turned around and

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looked him to squared in the face that

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was his exact words

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foreign

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since we know that according to the

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Morris report this is where the men

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disappeared into the object was on the

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west side now uh would you say that

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tomorrow is still rather exciting

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entirely mine when you were there I know

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fellow not subject to a managed to

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dispels or uh this nation would this be

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your impression of him and from the

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people's knowledge of him here in town

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where you say this seems to me

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but I think that this will help me out

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in getting the details of this case on

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record since I may not have time to talk

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to all of these things with Mr Samara

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who's been bothered a lot by everyone

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questioning him and calling him on the

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telephone and I certainly hear it out

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and come from the south and he said your

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hair correct around here flies off the

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low I said well how was that sir he said

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well like knocked me off the road out

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there because it must have been in

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trouble so the policeman was going to it

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so

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I asked him where's the helicopter he

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said no he says it wasn't a funny

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looking one

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so he went on about his fare and I was

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making up the bank deposits for the bank

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at 15-6 and that was the same time he

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was here and the next morning well it

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dawned on me at the time it was meant it

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was the same time as the test was in

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here and the more he went to that object

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it was on the ground there and I called

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the radio station tell him this morning

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was not telling a lie because Jerry seen

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something and didn't think much of it

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and he saw the police and also go into

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the objects that was in the ground which

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was a UFO this is Motors Road your

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roving reporter at ksrc radio in Socorro

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New Mexico we have with us this

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afternoon Mr Lonnie zamorro is the core

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of patrolman that while chasing a car

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found himself in an area about two miles

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west of Socorro and one mile east of

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ksrc radio station at which time he

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reports He Came Upon an unidentified

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object resting on four legs that as he

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drew closer the object took off with a

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loud blower spouting blue red flame and

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disappeared in the sky a great number of

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cards in Socorro people have gathered

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here in front of the studios of ksrc to

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catch a glimpse of Mr zamoro as he

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arrived and welcome him with their car

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horns Mr Zamora after coming upon Miss

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objects just what did happen I went up

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the Little Road

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for about

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half a mile again

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came up with a little Falcon deal there

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on the side of the road at night for the

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glad about the window

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looked through my lab to continue with

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white object

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the star bodies might be a car that had

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turned over and so I was the real big

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carry going out there to investigate

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because maybe somebody would be hurt

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uh that time I saw this white fake

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I hate shaped looking object is it

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something like a like an egg you mean

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yeah from the distance I was to look

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like an egg to me about the size of that

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car I think someone said yeah so it

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looks like the cards had turned over

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around the size of a car

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and uh do you have any kind of markings

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out of any kind that you noticed yes it

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did

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not from that

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about 5 30 by the afternoon

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I happened about 5 15 about 10 minutes

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to six my 10 minutes to check and uh you

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did place the call into Sergeant Paris

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of the State Police so come on how to

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help you with your investigation the

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full advisor is obviously I didn't know

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what it was

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I placed a call to uh Arden Travelers

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through the state police

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told him if he would come out there and

285
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help me on this he said yes I'll be

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right there for about a few minutes

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and he arrived uh just about two or

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three minutes after the object has taken

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off and and left well the object was

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still

291
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about a couple of months out there

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whenever he arrived and it was there an

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accident but that was over the top of

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the mountain there's a very several

295
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reports that yet the blue low and like

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it was dragging something and we've

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heard some uh it was very low to the

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ground at the time I was seeing it it

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was very low to the ground up to the

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pearlite the mill there and it started

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getting the altitude now around so uh it

302
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was reported to me that when you first

303
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drove up into this area and decided this

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object that the motors were running and

305
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it was going

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or some sort of sex sound is bad is that

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correct

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I couldn't say because it happened so

309
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fast I started running those scared but

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I don't blame you there's a thought

311
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something that even scares me yet uh now

312
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you didn't say that you saw uh to what

313
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appeared to be people dressed in white

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uniforms but do they have helmets on

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like Spaceman or anything

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to people I just I saw something white

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white power and that's what I could say

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that's right there was something in

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white coverall right but if you didn't

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you couldn't identify them as actually

321
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being a human being and you and I are

322
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uh and uh but that is you didn't know

323
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where they turned and saw you or or what

324
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this this

325
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is quite objective turning from me were

326
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there two of them how they were two

327
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because one was from France and the

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other had to think back if you had a

329
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chance to to notice what kind of a

330
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doorway they had to this uh this uh

331
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object is flying out they didn't know

332
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anything

333
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and uh

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uh

335
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very loud noise floor or something and

336
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then after he got up in the air about 20

337
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feet while the sound seemed to disappear

338
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the sun was the disappeared and was very

339
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very quiet people here is upstairs

340
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and now these the markings is left on

341
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the ground now the reports that I've had

342
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and I haven't had a chance to go and

343
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take a look in the winds yet to be

344
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probably uh spoiled a lot of that anyway

345
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whether that uh neighbors the deep

346
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indentations in the ground approximately

347
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10 inches wide and six to eight inches

348
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deep uh about 15 feet apart that is that

349
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a correct

350
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reporting was about 19 Field Park

351
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of The Prince and were there any other

352
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prints like footprints around the area

353
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at the right after the takeoff when

354
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you're making the investigation there

355
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were some prints but I wouldn't know if

356
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there were Footprints or anything just

357
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group and they didn't you couldn't

358
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identify him as actually being a

359
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footprint and the indentations like

360
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maybe somebody might have walked there

361
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or something might have walked there

362
00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:39,419
somebody walked around there because it

363
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was

364
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yet

365
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now there was uh according to a report

366
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on one of the news the television

367
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stations in Albuquerque claimed that

368
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they had a call uh just about 5 30 in

369
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Albuquerque I was signing about a flying

370
00:18:00,970 --> 00:17:59,160
object flying in this direction did you

371
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hear anything about that slow version

372
00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:04,380
which uh if that be true means that

373
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someone in Albuquerque he saw this

374
00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:07,620
object flying in this direction just

375
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prior to your Finance

376
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and we've collaborated to the fact that

377
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there was something here now it's the

378
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feeling I get the feeling at least

379
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learning as the people that I've talked

380
00:18:24,049 --> 00:18:22,020
to never out in the area that they are

381
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quite sure that something landed there

382
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and something took off from from this

383
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spot because of not only the imprints

384
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that is left in the ground but the fires

385
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that it started and and the method of

386
00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:36,240
which uh the Fire or the power that it

387
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was whatever it was using kind of spread

388
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:40,740
itself as it took off is that just right

389
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right I know that was something out

390
00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:45,299
there because I seen it

391
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and uh

392
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:49,799
uh what was your immediate reaction as

393
00:18:54,409 --> 00:18:51,240
soon as you realize that this thing

394
00:18:57,230 --> 00:18:54,419
might be an object from outer space

395
00:18:59,630 --> 00:18:57,240
well I didn't think it would be the

396
00:19:01,490 --> 00:18:59,640
object from outer space because of

397
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I don't believe in

398
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,320
didn't say like this mother's face

399
00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:06,480
well uh it was something that you'd

400
00:19:10,370 --> 00:19:08,280
never seen before and right enough to

401
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carry it and run in the other direction

402
00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:13,380
well what scared me was a lot of noise

403
00:19:19,789 --> 00:19:15,780
in the flame that the dirty head under

404
00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,799
it had a large flame as it took off was

405
00:19:25,610 --> 00:19:21,919
it a yellow flame

406
00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:25,620
bluish orange flame I thought this

407
00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:27,299
object was a little blow out there so I

408
00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:28,679
started running back

409
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,380
and did you notice whether the uh These

410
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,360
Arms that it was sitting on retracted

411
00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:36,000
back into the object as it flew away I'm

412
00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:38,360
going to have you didn't have time

413
00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:41,160
and tried to run in the other drag Rod

414
00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,320
at that time I would have been too are

415
00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:45,780
there any other things about this

416
00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:47,700
fighting that you think our listening

417
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:49,260
audience might be interested in or

418
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,880
something that you'll be allowed to tell

419
00:20:12,890 --> 00:19:52,160
us

420
00:20:14,450 --> 00:20:12,900
go faster you could barely do right up

421
00:20:16,490 --> 00:20:14,460
in here after these things

422
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:16,500
tend to do what you were looking at to

423
00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:19,919
see what what he was doing

424
00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:22,260
well um you think we're going to get any

425
00:20:27,650 --> 00:20:25,020
more of them around here hope not not

426
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:27,660
immediately all right but there's quite

427
00:20:32,570 --> 00:20:30,539
an interesting experience I am sure and

428
00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:32,580
that it's caused an awful lot of comment

429
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:34,500
uh

430
00:20:40,010 --> 00:20:37,440
the the investigators that were called

431
00:20:42,770 --> 00:20:40,020
in uh make any comments at all in one

432
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:42,780
direction or the other but it was the

433
00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:45,720
exception that they do not have any such

434
00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,120
objects in this area oh there are still

435
00:20:53,090 --> 00:20:50,640
puzzle themselves yes and there's been

436
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,100
no report on the samplings they took of

437
00:20:58,430 --> 00:20:55,919
the area around there from the burning

438
00:21:00,409 --> 00:20:58,440
brush and the areas that the blasts hit

439
00:21:02,210 --> 00:21:00,419
the ground but if I give them a clue as

440
00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:02,220
to what kind of power was being used on

441
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:05,160
this no terminal uh

442
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:06,780
well uh

443
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:09,200
I think I've just about covered it here

444
00:21:15,169 --> 00:21:12,240
let's see uh it wasn't dragging anything

445
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:15,179
we had a report that it was dragging

446
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:22,250
flow to the ground and uh

447
00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:24,059
you can't think of anything else then

448
00:21:29,090 --> 00:21:26,220
about deciding of this flying object

449
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,100
that our listing audience might be

450
00:21:33,649 --> 00:21:32,159
interested in you know

451
00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:33,659
say no

452
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,460
well Ronnie I'm sure you've been getting

453
00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:37,679
an awful lot of questions a lot of

454
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,419
inquiry and imagine if you get a little

455
00:21:43,610 --> 00:21:41,280
tired of it actually for as many people

456
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:43,620
calling and ask me about it maybe this

457
00:21:46,909 --> 00:21:45,480
will be one way to keep too many people

458
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:46,919
from and you have to go through the

459
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,380
story over and over again but it's been

460
00:21:54,350 --> 00:21:51,360
a real pleasure talking to you Mr Lonnie

461
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:54,360
Zamora this is the gentleman the support

462
00:22:01,070 --> 00:21:58,020
patrolman that Friday at around 10

463
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,080
minutes to six come up on an object a

464
00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:03,600
flying object and unidentified Fine Art

465
00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:06,360
because the government proposed to call

466
00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:09,080
them excuse me

467
00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:12,600
some military people that you serve them

468
00:22:17,450 --> 00:22:14,580
and talk to me now I believe they're

469
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:17,460
from the UFO uh what you have is the

470
00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:19,740
military people are here from UFO to

471
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,059
talk to you right now and to ask you

472
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:23,520
some more questions about this and they

473
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:25,320
have not in any way tried to indicate

474
00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:27,720
that they didn't want us to to cover

475
00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:29,940
this type of Manute yes sir I just don't

476
00:22:34,750 --> 00:22:31,080
know if I was going to come here and

477
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:34,760
talk to you in the registered

478
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:38,700
and we would be interested in knowing uh

479
00:22:42,830 --> 00:22:41,580
what they think about it if if they will

480
00:22:44,210 --> 00:22:42,840
allow it and after you get through

481
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,220
talking to them if you would call us

482
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:47,280
back at ksrc and give us some of the

483
00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:49,080
information that they might allow you to

484
00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:52,260
let us broadcast and we're glad to all

485
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,620
right and uh tomorrow I hope that you

486
00:22:59,169 --> 00:22:57,120
don't come upon any more of these

487
00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:59,179
objects

488
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,159
and then we find out exactly what they

489
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:04,559
are so it's been a pleasure Mr Lamar

490
00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:06,840
having you in our Studios and we want to

491
00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:08,820
thank you and I know our listeners thank

492
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,340
you and this is uh expressed by the

493
00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:12,960
great number of cars that are out here

494
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,240
in front of our studio just to get a

495
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,760
glimpse of uh what we might call a

496
00:23:39,289 --> 00:23:19,440
foreign celebrity right at the moment

497
00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:43,029
I certainly believe that

498
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:45,000
had a

499
00:23:48,409 --> 00:23:46,919
most interesting and significant

500
00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:48,419
experience

501
00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:50,760
and I'm particularly interested in the

502
00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:52,919
tracks that were left and in the

503
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,559
analysis of the samples of material from

504
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:58,320
those tracks until you know more about

505
00:24:02,990 --> 00:24:01,440
it uh all I can figure out is

506
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:03,000
disappointingly to you perhaps is

507
00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:05,280
something that I I'm as puzzled As You

508
00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:08,280
Are if your findings are on on the

509
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:10,440
effect you would uh from the analysis on

510
00:24:15,649 --> 00:24:13,440
the assessment that you've taken would

511
00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:15,659
you be at Liberty to advise before they

512
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:17,880
can do just what they were yes

513
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:20,400
absolutely there's no uh there's no

514
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:23,700
reason why not it's the uh I think in

515
00:24:28,909 --> 00:24:26,760
general there's been the feeling that

516
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,919
the Air Force wants to hide things and

517
00:24:34,669 --> 00:24:31,440
this is uh at least in my experience

518
00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:34,679
as a consultant for them I have not uh

519
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,140
come across that for instance here's one

520
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:38,640
example

521
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:40,740
um I was called by the Pentagon this

522
00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:43,919
morning and there's an Associated Press

523
00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:46,980
report out to the effect that some Air

524
00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:49,620
Force person had

525
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,640
told Mr zamar not to say anything about

526
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,400
the lettering

527
00:25:01,789 --> 00:24:59,520
and I was asked specifically to find out

528
00:25:03,529 --> 00:25:01,799
whether this statement had been made who

529
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:03,539
made it and all that sort of thing

530
00:25:09,049 --> 00:25:06,840
Zamara tells me that no one Air Force or

531
00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:09,059
no one else told him not to say anything

532
00:25:12,649 --> 00:25:10,919
about it but this is how these rumors

533
00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:12,659
get started someone says the Air Force

534
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:15,240
says clam up and this was simply

535
00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:17,880
apparently not the case according to Mrs

536
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:20,039
Lamar so I was very happy to find that

537
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,980
option well now about this marking uh

538
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:24,720
could you tell us how he described the

539
00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:27,179
marking and what the marking was yes I

540
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:29,340
see no reason why not he described it to

541
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:35,110
[Music]

542
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:39,600
I was reminded of as a typical um brand

543
00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:46,070
whatever the device was as though

544
00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:48,360
somebody had planted as you might rent a

545
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:49,559
candle

546
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,260
and about the color of this object how

547
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:54,720
did he describe the color

548
00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:55,440
um

549
00:26:00,529 --> 00:25:57,900
not in any great detail the color was

550
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:00,539
indicated as primarily whiteish